participant-3927, 2:07 PM, August 7
I’m in New York. I have met Greg Magarshak (@participant-4233 ) in person.
participant-3927, 2:10 PM, August 7
I said before and I will repeat again, we have smart and talented people in this channel. Let’s direct this immense potential towards the creation of a first-of-a-kind state, pure laissez-faire Capitalism.
participant-3927, 2:17 PM, August 8
The Mini Island in Manhattan is an example of how land can be extended aesthetically at the shore. The legs can be added as the territory grows.
participant-4233, 2:18 PM, August 8
Yes indeed
Like palm jumeirah
participant-3927, 2:18 PM, August 8
participant-3927, 2:19 PM, August 8
Even more surprising is that it yields to uneven terrain, akin to natural land, instead of a boring flat plateau.
participant-3927, 2:22 PM, August 8
Point Roberts, a unique exclave of US of 5 square km, has a large bay (Boundary bay), which potentially could be more likely to function as the initial freeport zone, with an eye on the whole of the land if it’s successful.
participant-4603, 10:04 PM, August 8
Yes and soon I should be publishing a book on the subject. There are clear, legal, ethical ways of doing all this. There’s little reason not to use capitalism to beget even more and better capitalism. For those interested, I have a 16-page preview available. But, yes, back to your point, it all makes sense to have synergy and a brain trust; I’m already putting that together, albeit at a glacial pace.
participant-3927, 12:22 PM, August 9
Who was Emir Faisal? He was the son of the ruler of Hejaz, a region in south Saudi Arabia. He united many Arab regions under nationalism flag during the First World War, and represented Arab interests following the fall of the Ottoman Empire. He became the king of Iraq, and arranged for Iraq to achieve full independence. Also, he supported Chaim Weizmann on the effort to create a Jewish state of Israel.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Faisal-I
participant-3927, 2:35 PM, August 9
Most of the world, especially Jews, think that Trump is a friend of Israel. With this kind of backstabbing friend, however, it’s impossible to build anything, because he will sell you out at the first opportunity. And for the purpose of establishing a new capitalist state (the “Go Anthem” project), we should not blindly trust any political leader who agrees to throw us a bone.
https://harrybinswanger.substack.com/p/trumps-betrayal-of-israel
participant-2294, 2:45 PM, August 9
Israel can arguably be considered the liberal state of the Middle East
participant-3927, 2:47 PM, August 9
FYI, during my trip in New York I have made progress with the Go Anthem project. However, I can’t reveal details. (This practice of keeping things private re conversations with influential people, I learned from reading Theodore Herzl’s diaries.)
participant-3927, 6:26 PM, August 10
If it is said that man is created by God, endowed with an immortal soul, and with reason as an attribute of his soul, it still holds true that he must act in accordance with his nature, the nature God gave him, and that in doing so he will be doing God’s will. But this implies that God endowed man with free will and the capacity of choice. It will not hold with a belief in a God as a deterministic ruler. But such a belief makes all morality impossible. Morality and determinism are mutually exclusive by definition. If there is a cosmic destiny, its meaning is man’s freedom. If, however, we assume a cosmic destiny working toward some purpose of its own which man cannot change or influence—then man is not free; then he can only act as prescribed and, if so, cannot be held responsible for his actions, nor considered either moral or immoral. But this is a belief which no truly religious person would accept. A benevolent God would not create a universe of slaves.
Christ did say that you must love your neighbor as yourself, but He never said that you must love your neighbor better than yourself—which is the monstrous doctrine of altruism and collectivism. Altruism—the demand of self-immolation for others—contradicts the basic premise of Christianity, the sacredness of one’s own soul.
participant-9525, 8:36 PM, August 10
Hi ✋, just finished listening to the mylatinlife podcast episode, cool stuff, thought I’ll drop by.
participant-3927, 8:36 PM, August 10
Welcome to the club
participant-3927, 8:37 PM, August 10
Did you find the channel via our website ?
participant-9525, 8:38 PM, August 10
website
participant-3927, 10:19 PM, August 10
Because there’s no God, the joyful submission is to a hierarchy of priests. A voluntary slavery, solidified by years of brainwashing. By the time one realizes he was duped, he has invested so much, that rejecting the make-belief is tantamount to suicide. I wrote an article on my Medium, “Religion is a Ponzi scheme”
participant-3927, 10:21 PM, August 10
📄 letter_102.md (3 pages)
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participant-3927, 10:22 PM, August 10
These are all the letters of Ayn Rand that have either Christ or Christianity in them. (I crawled the website and downloaded them for enabling advanced search.)
participant-3927, 10:22 PM, August 10
You can just change the number in the URL to read them.
participant-3927, 10:23 PM, August 10
Let me note that laissez-faire Capitalism permits freedom of religion, because it’s part of free speech.
participant-3927, 10:24 PM, August 10
This includes the right to blasphemy as well, as well as religious discrimination by persons on their private property.
participant-3927, 10:32 PM, August 10
Also, I predict that in a trully capitalist society people will naturally move towards atheism. I’ve heard that before Reagan brought the Moral Majority, intellectuals and the educated considered Christianity an anachronism for the simple people. You can see a little of this in the “Mad Men” TV series. The main actress comes to the city, incapable to fit in with the secular, sexually liberated society.
participant-3927, 10:35 PM, August 10
Ok, I won’t get into a debate with you about religion. It’s obvious we are on different ends here. Objectivists argue that America is
not a Christian nation.
participant-4603, 10:55 PM, August 10
Why isn’t Jesus Christ specifically explicitly mentioned in any of the founding documents? I understand all the implicit nod nod wink wink alleged references.
participant-4603, 10:57 PM, August 10
Why then did Thomas Jefferson himself rewrite the New Testament? I mean he was only the third president of the United States.
participant-4603, 10:58 PM, August 10
Yes, I understand some states had established churches, I get all of that and then some. And please don’t give me any of this Anno Domini stuff.
participant-4603, 11:05 PM, August 10
So much for it being a Christian country in the eyes of the law. Nobody disputes that the vast overwhelming majority of inhabitants were confessional Christians.
participant-4603, 11:06 PM, August 10
The personal views of one of the founding fathers has everything to do with what transpired and if that’s not a bellwether of whether or not the intention was to set up a Christian country I don’t know what is.
participant-3927, 11:06 PM, August 10
The anchor can’t be a castle in the sky. The anchor can’t be made of clouds. Objectivism is the first philosophy that grounds the theory of rights in reason, without reference to faith or a social contract.
participant-3927, 11:09 PM, August 10
To my great pleasure, I learned that in Iran, of all places, atheism is now mainstream. Not public on TV, but a fact on the streets.
participant-4603, 11:09 PM, August 10
What it boils down to is that you’ve been educated in a certain Christian revisionism, which I think has a good source to it in the form of tradition and conservatism. Some of that was a reaction to the excesses of Bolshevism and, of course, the Red Scare—not without good measure, for good reasons. But you have to look beyond your own blind spots. And if you’re going to believe in a god, you may as well believe in the God of Israel and not Jesus Christ. I will concede that the United States, as far as I understand it, was not set up as an atheist country in the same sense as Hoxha’s Albania, so for sure on that level there’s no question you and I see eye to eye.
participant-3927, 11:11 PM, August 10
The Stoicists have the concept of a God, the demiurg. It’s not atheistic. It’s also very flawed, because it denounces physical reality and everything that gives life pleasure.
participant-3927, 11:12 PM, August 10
“Higher moral authority” – don’t you see an irony in this? By postulating a fictional authority, there’s no morality whatsover. Morality is a choice based on real things happening.
participant-4603, 11:16 PM, August 10
Yes, that’s correct from a Christian perspective. But you see, even that is problematic.
Let’s take the fact that Christianity is unsubstantiated by the Hebrew Bible. I know you’ll disagree with that, and that’s okay.
The trouble is, what kind of Christianity was America supposedly set up to be all about? Any garden variety of Christianity?
participant-3927, 11:16 PM, August 10
As you said correctly, the Englightment thinkers still relied on God to ground their morality. They wanted to justify natural rights, but leaned on the prevalent philosophy of their day to do so. That’s why there’s the religious language in the Declaration of Independence. It’s important to interpret it in the correct context, though. All men are created equal by their Creator is not a testament to God, it’s a testament to man’s rights, using the concepts and language available at the time.
participant-3927, 11:18 PM, August 10
Christianity was a superior step historically, it’s good that it superceded Judaism.
participant-3927, 11:19 PM, August 10
Before the Roman war, Jews had their own Jihad (not all, but a substantial amount, like with Islam today). They ran around with hidden swords in their sleves, and killed people deemed not religous enough.
participant-3927, 11:20 PM, August 10
After the Roman war, most Jews were killed. (A million people in first certury AD is a staggering number.) Those who remained alive were forced to create a mild version of Judaism, this became Rabbinism.
participant-3927, 11:20 PM, August 10
Christianity was the Roman project to achieve the same, having hired Josephus to do the writing and propaganda. There’s a theory that Josephus was St. Paul.
participant-4603, 11:21 PM, August 10
It’s good, insofar as it expanded and raised God-awareness—assuming that’s a good thing.
And as a civilising force, I can understand Christianity fitting that bill much better than Judaism. I don’t think Judaism is so scalable, and that’s likely a major issue and has been.
No wonder we also saw the advent of Islam, for example, which in some instances was a civilising force.
Nowadays, I don’t know if that is still true, but certainly to the old pagans of Arabia and other places, it’s possible to make that claim.
But certainly, it’s more difficult to make that claim in 2025.
participant-3927, 11:22 PM, August 10
But all things being equal, Christianity united people under a single philosophy, gave people national identity, and most importantly, distanced them from praying in a temple (collectivism), and made them pray
individiually – individualism. This Ayn Rand highlights in her commentary.
participant-4603, 11:25 PM, August 10
Judaism has a universal message too, though that is not as intuitive and hasn’t been so crystal clear for a variety of reasons.
Though there is an argument to be made that the seven Noahide categories of law should have been better promoted to have served the function and role Christianity has taken on. But I suppose that horse has long left the stable.
I can most certainly appreciate and understand the appeal of Christianity throughout the ages, and I think it’s foolish to deny that.
At the same time, it just doesn’t add up if you’re starting from Judaism.
participant-3927, 11:29 PM, August 10
After the Industrial Revolution, when the capacity of reason showed what it can do, it’s unreasonable to be religous. Kant wrote that he had to destroy reason to make way for faith.
participant-3927, 11:30 PM, August 10
I don’t admit this. I said that it was a natural evolution in a sectarian society conquered by Greece and Rome, but it quickly did more damage than good. The Dark Ages lasted for 1000 years.
participant-3927, 11:31 PM, August 10
Mitt: it’s really quite simple – there is no evidence. All we have to go on, is our own smarts.
participant-3927, 11:33 PM, August 10
Let’s return us to the Go Anthem project. If we don’t do anything, the world may fall into another Dark Ages that can last another 1000 years!
participant-3927, 11:34 PM, August 10
We already observe the disconnection of the mind in the likes of Trump and Putin and appeal to blind faith. We see that a lot of people are getting on this train. This happened with Hitler too, and Mao. And look closely, the official religion is backing this. Putin has his orthodox church, and Trump has his evangelicals. Even the intellectuals such as Peter Thiel come on TV to talk favourably about religion. This means we can’t even count on the rationality of the businessmen. Who’s left ? The ‘woke’ lefties that can’t tell apart a woman from a man? The people who have their own religion of DEI?
Also, re Covid and now illegal immigrants, look how easily people believe conspiracy theories. The writing is on the wall. We can probably fly by, but what about our kids?
participant-3927, 11:42 PM, August 10
I was quite suprised to be invited to Radio VERA the other day – the subject was that there’s nowhere to run. It’s bad-to-worse everywhere, which even the normies notice now.
participant-3927, 11:45 PM, August 10
But let me draw you a beautiful picture: imagine a New America, sitting alone in the middle of a crashing world. A world which is crashing in an orgy of altruism (demonstrated in Atlas Shrugged). In New America you can be anything that you wish, even a communist! Just don’t force your views on anyone. In New America, if you have an idea, you can work on it, just like the Wright Brothers. No one will stand in your way, putting bureaucratic regulatory barriers before you. Your private property, particularly your intellecutal property, is protected. Banking is unregulated – giving you the freedom to raise any amount of capital, provided you can convince people that you have a good idea. You get to chose the school where your kids go, and the school can teach any curriculum. The
acceleration by which the new society would progress would be staggering. We would quickly move to space, to explore other planets and to harvest their resources.
