Telegram Archive - week 21, 2025, page 3

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participant-8601, 10:54 AM, May 25

Hello

participant-5138, 11:14 AM, May 25

Hi, @participant-8601!

participant-3927, 4:53 PM, May 25

Hi M, welcome. How did you find the Telegram channel, I am curious ?

participant-3927, 4:57 PM, May 25

I gave access yesterday to another objectivist Vlad Shipunov to manage the English Twitter account.

participant-3927, 4:57 PM, May 25

Also, @participant-367 helped with translations.

participant-3927, 4:57 PM, May 25

Let’s get more of you involved and doing stuff

participant-3927, 4:58 PM, May 25

Can you all post something about the Go Anthem project on various Discord groups that you are in ?

participant-3927, 5:03 PM, May 25

Also please follow and retweet https://x.com/go_anthem/status/1922356686825619538?s=46
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participant-3927, 5:13 PM, May 25

It’s the hardest thing to get initial followers on Twitter. People won’t follow unless you have at least a few hundred followers.

participant-3927, 5:49 PM, May 25

A competing project to Anthemism is Joseph Avatar’s Society of Reason (SoReason). Joseph was the one who inspired me to pursue the new-country idea by posting on this at HBL (although I had this idea too for years, but did not act on it). I just found out that his private Facebook group has 6,000 members. Impressive https://www.facebook.com/groups/soreason/
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participant-3927, 5:50 PM, May 25

It seems to be active, there are 13 posts just last month, there are people who Joseph delegated work to, and I think he is actually paying them money for part time work. This is encouraging because it shows that there are many interested people, in theory, in starting a new country.

participant-3927, 5:50 PM, May 25

I wish the project a success, and hopefully one day both initiatives can work together. As of now, I can’t join the group, because I don’t want to be accused by Joseph of stealing his people. I have invited him twice to join this Telegram channel, but I have received no response.

participant-3927, 5:54 PM, May 25

In 2022, on HBL (post 42722), Joseph writes publicly at me: “Aren’t you taking credit for an idea I’ve been working on for years?”. Then later, he adds: Mr. Reitman sent me an email, explaining that he has been thinking about the idea of a new country for many years as well. He says he is not referencing my work, and that’s why he does not need to credit me.

participant-3927, 5:56 PM, May 25

Back at that time I was thinking about a name for a new country, because I didn’t have the “Anthemism” concept yet, and I wanted some “handle” to refer to what I’m takling about. Here are the two variants I came up with: Pax and Anconia.

Pax means peace is Latin, and it would be good for a country in a conflict-torn region. Pax would probably have to be spelled as Paks or Pacs to make it sound the same in many languages.

Anconian refers to a character in Atlas Shrugged, Francisco d’Anconia. Anconia has the linguistic form of a country name, and a citizen would be an “anconian.” Anconia works well as an adjective. E.g “The Anconian industry leads the world in innovation.”

participant-3927, 6:34 PM, May 25

Here’s what I wrote to Joseph Avatar in a letter, in 2022.

I see how the name “Society of Reason” can work for a cruise ship. I plan to include the draft country name in letters that I would write, and I do not want to innovate more than the minimum necessary. Things should remain in familiar form where possible, so long that they do not sacrifice capitalism.

By the way, Herzl used a different name for the interim settlement of the state compared to the final form of it. The final state was the Judenstaat (the Jewish State), but the interim was the “Society of Jews.” The society was to manage the process of selling real estate in Europe, buying real estate in Palestine, assigning workers to work sites in Palestine, nationalizing wealth, etc.

participant-8601, 7:11 PM, May 25

Ironically I found you in X 🙃 totally random…
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