participant-3488, 10:45 PM, July 13
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simushir
Here’s a middle Kuril island, that could be, maybe, an independent coutnry that under dual protectorate of Russian and Japan, acting as a neutral buffer zone between them. Wikipedia says that at one time it had a population of 3000 military, and now is un-inhabited.
participant-3488, 11:17 PM, July 13
The Simushir island (old name Marikan), acting as a buffer zone between Russia and Japan, can become a viable independent laissez-faire Capitalist state through a market-driven development model that begins with a focused $2 billion infrastructure investment as a charterred territory. This initial capital would create the minimum viable foundation: upgraded harbor facilities at Brouton Bay, a regional airport, high-capacity communications, geothermal power systems, water infrastructure, worker housing, basic medical facilities, geological monitoring networks, and starter food production through greenhouses and aquaculture. The goal would be to transform Simushir from an isolated volcanic island into a functional economic platform capable of supporting permanent settlement. After this foundation is established, further growth would come through private investment, immigration, and economic activity in areas such as maritime services, fisheries, tourism, research, technology, energy, and digital industries. The engineering challenges of living in a volcanic, earthquake-prone, isolated environment have already been addressed by regions such as Japan (large cities built in major earthquake and volcanic zones), Iceland (geothermal energy and volcanic conditions), Hawaii (large populations living on active volcanic islands), New Zealand (earthquake engineering and volcanic hazards), and Singapore (large-scale urban development despite limited natural land and dependence on engineered systems).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simushir
participant-3927, 11:43 PM, July 13
The name can be the Republic of Simu (or just ‘Sim’), can start as the “Simu Shire” charter territory.
participant-3927, 11:51 PM, July 13
The next Kuril island is Urup which is 6 times bigger, and maybe a smarter play
participant-1522, 11:55 PM, July 13
You don’t think planting a flag on an island that’s 20% volcano is a bad idea?
participant-3927, 11:58 PM, July 13
Both islands are not inhabited
participant-3927, 11:58 PM, July 13
No one will give a nice territory for settlement
participant-1522, 11:58 PM, July 13
I’m saying what if it goes off
participant-1522, 12:00 AM, July 14
And how are you going to do this anyways? Are you going to fly to Russia and have a nice little chat with Putin at the kremlin? I’m sure they reserve a room in the basement just for that occasion
participant-3927, 12:02 AM, July 14
We would have to wait until Putin is gone, and the whole region is contentuous
participant-3927, 12:02 AM, July 14
Those volcanous emit a lot of ash, but it can be managed.
participant-3927, 12:03 AM, July 14
Don’t know about exploding vulcano, but it’s not an annual event. The ash is
participant-3927, 12:04 AM, July 14
As I understand, the Kuril islands are under dispute with Russia and Japan already.
participant-3927, 12:05 AM, July 14
I think it would have to be both islands at once, not Simushir or Urup, but both together.
participant-3927, 12:17 AM, July 14
Next island is Iturup
participant-3927, 12:29 AM, July 14
By the way, I heard before talk of Kuril islands becoming a SEZ. According to Russia, it already is a SEZ with reduced tax.
participant-3927, 12:30 AM, July 14
“The Japanese government formally protested the implementation of the SEZ, claiming it violates Japan’s sovereignty over the islands. Consequently, foreign investments from allied nations carry significant geopolitical and diplomatic risks. You can read more about the diplomatic complications in articles from the JAPAN Forward platform.”
participant-4603, 12:47 AM, July 14
Decent size
participant-4603, 12:48 AM, July 14
I think Sakhalin has some sort of a special zone. Or at least it was supposed to, at least on paper….
participant-3927, 12:52 AM, July 14
I think the chance that Russia will give up Kamchatka is viable only if Russia balkanizes to be reduced to a non-superpower state. Otherwise, it will want its control of the North Pacific, that can only be done from Kamchatka. Until then, Kamchatka can be at most a SEZ.
participant-1522, 1:54 AM, July 14
I would look into that. What would be the point if you get another Pompeii
participant-3927, 5:21 AM, July 14
We only need 100 years
participant-3927, 5:22 AM, July 14
After that capitalism will spread
participant-3927, 5:26 AM, July 14
Given the chances of being next to impossible to create a new sovereign state, we can take some risks. I understand that lava flow moves in predictable directions, that Japan already builds around it.
participant-1522, 5:28 AM, July 14
I don’t know anything about volcanoes. I just think that’s something I’d look into before anything if that’s single most destructive thing on the island that could literally wipe everything out.
participant-3927, 5:52 AM, July 14
Actually, Simushir Island used to be called Marikan. That means, it could be called “The Marikan Republic” — sound pretty good. Sounds close to American. Or “Marikana Republic” — close to Americana. Or Marika, or Marikan (without any Republic)
participant-3927, 3:50 PM, July 14
Cold climate + geothermal energy (volcanoes), like in Iceland and Kamchatka, create an opportunity for server farms. You get cheap electricity from geothermal and free cooling from the cold air.
participant-3927, 5:29 PM, July 15
It reminds me of a prism spliting light, I think this can be a model for a flag symbolising reason.
participant-1522, 5:35 PM, July 15
The only flag I think is appropriate is like a black Mercedes flag with the steel symbol but replace the Mercedes symbol with Atlas carrying the world.
participant-3927, 5:47 PM, July 15
but we are not carrying teh world
participant-3927, 5:48 PM, July 15
that’s the whole point of creating a new countnyr, so that we don’t have to
participant-3927, 5:48 PM, July 15
participant-3927, 5:48 PM, July 15
Variant 6 could work for a country in colder climate
participant-3927, 5:57 PM, July 15
Design #6 is Howard Roark in ice
participant-1522, 6:03 PM, July 15
It’s not about carrying the world it’s about being a strong enough individual who could envision himself to be atlas capable of carrying the world. Of which I’d hope that’s all the country would be filled with is atlas type men
participant-4603, 6:55 PM, July 15
Me, too. One of my favourites.
participant-4233, 6:56 PM, July 15
hehe pretty colors
still every tie I see “Anthemism chat” it seems for a secondl ike “Antisemitism chat” haha
participant-3927, 7:30 PM, July 15
I know, but otherwise it’s a good name
participant-3927, 6:06 PM, July 16
Every action has consequences. If one decides to put a business in Malasiya, the kind that’s suppposed to champion freedom, this is the result. Why not do it in US?
participant-4603, 7:34 PM, July 16
What I don’t understand is Balaji must have been aware of this before he put his school there and I know that he is very inspired by Zionism….
participant-3488, 6:38 AM, July 17
Larry David has done it again, now with his new TV series: “The pursuit of Unhappiness.”
participant-3927, 4:12 AM, July 18
participant-3927, 4:17 AM, July 18
black: industry, gold: property, blue: stability, off-white: rights, red: army/defense.
participant-3927, 4:20 AM, July 18
the blue + white + red is the “Captain America” colors (USA).
participant-3927, 4:21 AM, July 18
while the black + gold is Germany
participant-3927, 5:21 AM, July 19
participant-1522, 5:22 AM, July 19
You really think that is an inspiring flag? That really gets the internal emotional juices going for you?
participant-3927, 5:25 AM, July 19
It’s consistent with Objectivism. White is rights, gold is property. And the geometric design means — break from the past.
participant-1522, 5:27 AM, July 19
I wasn’t going to say anything but to see that just ignites something in me. That is a fuck ugly flag
participant-3927, 5:30 AM, July 19
ok
participant-3927, 5:31 AM, July 19
participant-3927, 5:31 AM, July 19
What about this one?
participant-1522, 5:32 AM, July 19
Haaaa. Thats even worsssee. What is this the Macdonald national flag?
participant-3927, 5:33 AM, July 19
🙂
participant-3927, 5:33 AM, July 19
I just thought the colors harmonize
participant-3927, 5:33 AM, July 19
yellow coupled with black just looks german
participant-3927, 5:33 AM, July 19
bad association
participant-3927, 5:33 AM, July 19
yellow with blue — Ukrainian. also bad
participant-3927, 5:34 AM, July 19
green — environmentalist
participant-3927, 5:34 AM, July 19
The white yellow is the color of the ARI
participant-1522, 5:35 AM, July 19
I’m going to give this image generation a try. What one are you using? I’ve never done this before
participant-3927, 5:35 AM, July 19
I was using Gemini
participant-1522, 5:35 AM, July 19
Don’t even get me started on the Ari logo. That’s stupid as fuck aswell.
participant-1522, 5:37 AM, July 19
How much does it cost? Don’t you have to buy tokens or something?
participant-3927, 5:37 AM, July 19
it doesn’t cost anyting to try a few times. But, I happen to be on Google business plan, so I get extra
participant-3927, 5:44 AM, July 19
Here’s a flag for anti-Russian war against Ukraine. Remove the red (war) to have peace.
participant-3488, 5:57 AM, July 19
Why spend any time now thinking about a flag for a new free state? Isn’t this daydreaming, is there any practical value in this?
Here’s what Theodore Herzl, founder of Zionism, wrote in one of his early letters. This was a letter to Baron Maurice de Hirsch, a Jewish banker and philantropist, owner of railroads. Hirsch sponsored Jewish colonies in Argentina, and it was him to whom Herzl appealed to redirect finances towards the mass immigration plan into Palestine. The material from the letters to Hirsch later went into Herzl’s book “The Jewish State.”
https://www.herzlonline.org/en/diary-page/50-h1-h72-diary-1-en/?view=layers&hdslang=en
Herzl writes to Hirsch:
… But I would have had to tell you eventually what flag I will unfurl and how. And then you would have asked mockingly: A flag, what is that? A stick with a rag on it?—No, sir, a flag is more than that. With a flag one can lead men wherever one wants to, even into the Promised Land.
For a flag men will live and die; it is indeed the only thing for which they are ready to die in masses, if one trains them for it; believe me, the policy of an entire people—particularly when it is scattered all over the earth—can be carried out only with imponderables that float in thin air. Do you know what went into the making of the German Empire? Dreams, songs, fantasies, and black-red-and-gold ribbons—and in short order. Bismarck merely shook the tree which the visionaries had planted.
What? You do not understand the imponderable? And what is religion? Consider, if you will, what the Jews have endured for the sake of this vision over a period of two thousand years. Yes, visions alone grip the souls of men. And anyone who has no use for them may be an excellent, worthy, sober-minded person, even a philanthropist on a large scale; but he will not be a leader of men, and no trace of him will remain.
participant-3927, 6:04 AM, July 19
Hirsch rejected Herzl, but ironically, Hirsch is in the historical record because Herzl approached him. Also, it’s after writing and meeting with Hirsch, Herzl started himself actually believing in the the idea — before that, it was in his mind, a fantasy. We know this, because he wrote it in his diary later.
participant-1522, 6:25 AM, July 19
That really is quite interesting that image generation
participant-3927, 6:58 AM, July 19
participant-3927, 6:59 AM, July 19
Colby asked me to put it in the chat.
participant-3927, 6:59 AM, July 19
(I don’t like it, for reasons I already stated above, but also,
It’s gloomy Christian suffering)
participant-1522, 7:00 AM, July 19
Well he’s supposed to bright gleaming silver. Like the Mercedes symbol but I ran out of free images
participant-1522, 7:09 AM, July 19
Yeah that’s a good one
participant-1522, 7:10 AM, July 19
Wish that was the Ari logo instead
participant-3927, 2:41 PM, July 19
participant-3927, 2:41 PM, July 19
White: rights, gold: property
participant-3488, 3:09 PM, July 19
Theodore Herzl wanted to create a country as a sanctuary for Jews against antisemitism. He wanted to save Jews and provide them the chance for a normal life, where their basic freedoms are protected from unfair regulations such as the pale of settlement, and from the pogroms. He argued that no local policy will solve this, and that a new country is needed and we know today that he was right.
I want to do the same, not merely for Jews, but for all people. I want to provide a place that protects inalienable rights more than any other country today. Similarly, no policy in existing country will solve the issue. The current politics is too entrenched to move in hundreds of years. A new country, a fresh start is needed.
Laissez-faire Capitalism, as outlined by Ayn Rand in her book “Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal” is the ideal political system that will protect such freedoms. In this system the government is only responsible for the Army, Police, and the Courts of Law. Everything else is in private hands, there are no regulations (only laws).
For more details, read one of my early articles on Zionism: https://anthemism.org/article/zionism/
